Talk:Fox

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[edit] "reserving a particular obsession for reading motivations of oppression and control into current political events"

That's nothing that Marxists have a monopoly on--it's also a big part of paranoid US-style right-wing politcs (FEMA camps, "take our guns away," etc. etc.) RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 22:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Reds wrote the book on this stuff; right-wingers merely stole their line (or, in the case of many neoconservatives, kept using it). ListenerX^TalkerX 06:05, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Please take your hatred of Marxists elsewhere. 08:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Pardon me; how is my hatred of Marxism relevant here? ListenerX^TalkerX 16:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

'Cause this article ain't about Marxism and you're over-reaching in your amateur psychoanalysis of Fox's motives. The edit you put in was more about you and your hate-on for Reds than it was about Fox. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 17:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Fox was once a radical unionist and he is now employing the same rhetoric against, roughly, the same target. There is nothing psychoanalytic in saying that. And must I point out that I am not exactly alone in noting that he has an obsession or persecution complex in that area? ListenerX^TalkerX 17:52, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

No doubt a tongue-in-cheek reference to his alleged persecution complex is in the spirit of good snark. Turning that into irrelevant paranoid red-baiting so you can grind your preferred axe? Not so much. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 17:54, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

So attributing the obsession to his former political beliefs, with some basis, is a travesty, but attributing it to his current religious beliefs, with no basis at all, is perfectly all right? (Remember, also, that I did not bring Marxism into this; Fox did.) ListenerX^TalkerX 18:36, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Yup. The latter is snarky and says more about Messianic Judaism than anything else. The former is amateurish Red-baiting and says more about you than it does about Fox or anything else. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 18:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Do you have some basis for the claim that a disproportionate number of Messianic Jews possess persecution complexes? ListenerX^TalkerX 20:00, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Ferfuxsakes, what website do you think you're editing at here? I got yer "basis for the claim" right here. In my pants. I'll explain the joke for you in small words, since you're determined to be a pedantic a-hole about this. You see, the Jews get picked on a lot. And Messianic Jews get picked on by other Jews, thus making them picked-on by the picked-on. Thus, it's funny to think of "persecution complexes" in regards to an overly sensitive editor who went bananas over nothing in terms of a religion that can be seen as the most-picked-on thing going. Fuck, you're less fun than golf, ListenerX. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 20:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I do not find jokes that rely on a stereotype for the punch line to be funny. But, leaving that aside, what was wrong with the basis I gave for my claim? (Note that I am not suggesting that Fox is any sort of "communist mole," only that being a real dyed-in-the-wool Marxist is more a way of life than a political philosophy.) ListenerX^TalkerX 05:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

As I said before, it says more about your obsession than it does about Fox. More importantly, it's just not very funny. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 05:49, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It was not meant to be funny. I should ask Fox about this if he comes back. ListenerX^TalkerX 06:49, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] P-philia disputes

There are a few things being mashed together here: I don't remember anyone talking about deleting Fox's articles on the policies that pissed him off, only people wanting to de-Godwinize them. Maybe go into the difflinks to verify? Also, the dispute over the "Poor P-philes" essay, while overlapping with the legislation stuff, was its own little bit of weirdness; but that gets all jumbled together into one pgph here. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor 21:19, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Locale

Wasn't he from (or close to) Portsmouth? That seems to ring a bell in the Selavy databanks. Rrose Selavy 10:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

[1] Winchester, but Portsmouth holds "a place in his heart" Ty 11:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Close. Same county anyway. Rrose Selavy 11:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't look at me. I have not been to Portsmouth, nor Winchester. Ty 11:48, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

You're not missing anything. Rrose Selavy 12:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)