Talk:ListenerX

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Contents 1 Edit requests 2 WIGO writing 3 Long quote 4 "He is also an ardent critic of communism..." 5 Hiatus

[edit] Edit requests

There are a few edits (besides copyedits) that I would make to this article, if it were not against Wiki rules:

1. The term "neopagan" is too broad to describe my religion. If for some reason Odinist is not an acceptable description, there should be at least some indication that I practice Germanic neopaganism.

2. The term "anti-communist" is too broad to describe my political views. I am, more specifically, a capitalist.

3. I do not think my essay is "anti-atheist," as its criticisms are aimed more at the practice of atheism than at the theory.

— ListenerX 06:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

When I looked over you're essay I thought it bashed atheism, for example maybe the part where you were talking about Babbage. GuyIncognito 19:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

If the metaphysical premise of atheism is true then what I say there becomes a non-issue, so that is not any theoretical problem with atheism. But as far as RWW is concerned, the entire point is moot anyway. — ListenerX 05:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WIGO writing

The newly inserted remark about my WIGO writing gives a false impression of it, as I appear to write more good WIGOs than bad ones and also initiated the highest-scoring WIGO in the Wiki's history (and, if I count correctly, eight more of the top 40). ListenerX^TalkerX 08:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Would you like me to re-word the offending edit? SuperJosh^{For no reason whatsoever} 13:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You know as well as I that the WIGO voting has been inflated hugely with RW's growing popularity. You still write stunningly bad WIGOs, and there appear to be rather a lot of them. 14:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Uh "stunningly bad".... I like that! --Kaka 14:56, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

(1) Inflation or not, very few WIGOs make it above +100 (this is to date only 40 or so out of over 2700). (2) There are not "rather a lot of them." I do write the occasional Stunningly Bad WIGO, but proportionally few of mine go below 0. We should get LArron to run new statistics. ListenerX^TalkerX 22:25, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You don't get to decide how other people perceive you. What scores your WIGOs get is minor trivia, & probably doesn't belong in the article. If the feedback from RW/RWW editors is that they are stunningly bad, maybe that does belong. Please stop trying to influence the article about you - unless it contains anything factually inaccurate, you shouldn't be interfering with it. weaseLICIOuS ^{Bite Me} 01:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Weaselicious, I am explicitly permitted and encouraged to whine pathetically on this talk-page if I have issues with the article. I have not actually edited the article with regards to this issue.

With regard to WIGOs, the WIGO votes speak louder than one or two RationalWikiWiki editors about the community's opinion of them in general. To say that I write a disproportionate number of WIGOs with negative vote tallies is, I submit, a factual error. ListenerX^TalkerX 21:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Fine. Whine pathetically, but don't expect us to listen. 92.233.174.117 22:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

LArron has finally run new statistics. He does not appear to include any raw numbers, but measuring with a ruler, the mean vote tally for WIGOs I initiated is running at approximately +45. ListenerX^TalkerX 07:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Long quote

Could it be cut down to get the gist of it? And by the way, LX has said some way more controversial things. Liveware Problem 01:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I usually avoid Lx but got a "let's add quotes!" thing in my head while reading your user talk page. Tyrannis 01:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

It might actually be good to have a kind of randomly-rotating "best of" quote selection for user profiles. Liveware Problem 04:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Instead of (or at least as well as) adding a quote that almost doubles the length of the page, you might have done something useful, e.g., noted that my extended Wiki-break ended six months ago, or removed the lie near the top of the page, which was added by a now-blocked troll and has already been twice reverted. ListenerX^TalkerX 06:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Specify which part is a lie. Also, the quote is there to show you aren't insane. Tyrannis 12:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] "He is also an ardent critic of communism..."

This recent addition to the article should be removed, for two reasons:

1. As I am already classified as "the second most paranoid red-baiter on Rationalwiki [sic]," the statement is highly redundant.
2. This is a word-for-word copy of a remark made by an editor who was laboring under a misapprehension, from which he drew the erroneous conclusion before I was able to clear it up or otherwise respond. ListenerX^TalkerX 23:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

So... you want it removed, I'm guessing. And I always thought it was a Raven because Odin had two ravens. As you said Odinist, that made more sense to me than the hammer.Ty 23:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Your phrase "highly redundant" is redundant. Either something is redundant or it isn't; it can't be "highly redundant". SuspectedReplicant 23:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Ty: Yes; thank you for removing it. I use "Odinist" just because it is an English word as opposed to the Old Norse "Asatru." Many Mjollnir amulets were worn by the Norse in pagan times and the symbol is now representative of all of Norse paganism, similarly to how the Parthenon is used as a symbol for Greco-Roman paganism, even though it was only a temple of Athena.

SuspectedReplicant: One could argue that there are degrees of redundancy (repeating a single word vs. repeating a whole concept) but I will just remove the "highly." ListenerX^TalkerX 05:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I studied Norse Mythology as a hobby during middle school, so I know a little bit, like the hammer/cross hybrid. Ty 19:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Hiatus

My Wiki-break lasted five months, not three. Also, the last sentence in the section is now redundant. ListenerX^TalkerX 05:01, 18 June 2011 (UTC)